"You know, a lot of the stuff we did we did with the techniques used in the1830s. In other words I've harvested, I've harvested wheat with a hand sickle. I've hand-tied the little bundles to do that. I've threshed wheat on a threshing floor with a flail. You know, I've planted with horses and I've harvested with horses and we've ground feed with horses on a treadmill."
[Question:] "Characterize for me what it's like to use 1830s technology."
"You know with that technology you are much more intimate with the process and with your resource. I mean, when you're working that way and you're in the fields by hand even a small plots, you learn pretty quickly the differences between this corner of the field and this corner of the field over here. And it's a thing you learn to know just by walking across it. And today, with today's technology, we hardly have a chance to get our feet on the ground. Some of this machinery is big enough that you're feet are still six feet from the ground
"One of my favorite authors about the holistic approach is an Amish man in Ohio, David Cline, and I really appreciate some of the things [he writes]. I mean, he looks at the wildlife that hatch out in the hedge as part of his harvest. And one of the other things he talks about is that for an Amish man he has a big farm. He has 120 acres. But he says it's still not so big that if in the middle of corn planting season if I want to take a day off and go for a walk in the woods with my daughter I can do it. And so there's a lot more about value and how we have values in relationship and how we value resources in the community and we tend to lose that in a lot of our agriculture because we don't need community. We've tried to replace it with technology and you never can."
[Question:] "So the GPS system doesn't replace walking across your field?"
"No. Not at all. You can't get a feel for the land with GPS. You can look at all the technology stuff you want to but it's that personal interaction that communicates more to you than I think just about anything else. Especially if you've taken the time to try to understand the dynamics of what's going on there."