"In '37, '38 or '39, the lights went by our place, electric farm lights. And they wanted to know if I'd take the lights. I said, 'I can't pay that bill.' It was only $3.50 or $4.00 a month, whatever it was, the minimum. I said I [couldn't]. And telephone, we had no telephone. That was only $18 a year, $1.50 a month. We couldn't pay for that. We never had no telephone."