"We always had a Christmas tree. I was thinking about the very first Christmas I remember. I came down the stairs as we were called, and we had it in the morning and they opened our front room in the winter, we could only heat the dining room and kitchen and they opened those double doors, and there was that huge Christmas tree with candles lit. So what a thrill! But after a while we began having our Christmas in the evenings, Christmas Eve. But that other was a thrill for a little girl, coming down and seeing that tree all lit up. I wonder today how, how there wasn't more, why there wasn't more fires. Those candles were lit… One year, my mother said not to expect anything [presents]. She said, 'We just can't afford it.' So we were kind of disappointed. But we did get scarves and mittens that year."